Political Surf on the public rejecting Obama on Gitmo

The public has told President Obama how it feels about his plan to close Guantanamo, and the new president has been dealt a very sharp rebuke.

According to a USA Today Gallup Poll, 65 percent of Americans oppose closing Gitmo. Only 32 percent want to close it. Just about every demographic group differs with Obama on this issue. Even 42 percent of Democrats want to keep Gitmo open.

Also, the Democrats’ main spin for closing Gitmo — that it weakens U.S. national security — is a loser. 40 percent say Gitmo has strengthened national security, compared to 18 percent who say its presence has weakened national security. 37 percent say it’s had little or no effect.

Finally, 74 percent of Americans, including 56 percent of Democrats and 78 percent of independents, are against Gitmos detainees being incarcerated in their state.

These poll results underscore how much more Americans trust former Vice President Dick Cheney than they do President Obama on the issue of Guantanamo’s future. In their very recent public debate over Gitmo, Cheney came across as  sincere and knowledgeable. Obama, on the other hand, appeared to be echoing “talking points” from the Democratic Party playbook.  It was a low moment in his still-young administration.

The president once very cavalierly said that closing Gitmo would be an easy decision. Hopefully, he will admit he was wrong and keep the prison open.

For more information on the poll, go to: http://realclearpolitics.blogs.time.com/2009/06/02/public-sides-with-cheney-against-closing-gitmo/

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5 Responses to Political Surf on the public rejecting Obama on Gitmo

  1. Jack says:

    Americans may trust former Vice President on the issue of Guantanamo, but that doesn’t mean he’s worthy of their trust. Bear in mind that he convinced us that the only people held at Gitmo were not only real terrorists, but the “worst of the worst.” Since then it has come to light that many of the detainees held there were simply innocent unfortunates who had been “sold” to American forces by unscrupulous Afghanis for the bounty money we offered. Because the detainees were deprived of the legal procedures, their guilt or innocence could not be determined. This is the sort of behavior we used to vilify Stalin for— and thanks to Cheney, our nation is now guilty of it.

  2. Obama is obviously on some kind of learning curve about the reality of being the American President. While he continues to blame Bush for his difficulties, he’s also systematically turning away from his campaign posturing (and promises to the left) by affirming and continuing the Bush administration’s policies in Iraq and Gitmo. He’s not going to withdraw troops like he promised. He’s not going to close Gitmo like he promised. Why? Because both were necessary.

    He’s learning.

  3. Michael Trujillo says:

    Once again, “most” Americans are succumbing to a herd mentality. The Majority! The Majority! As everyone’s Mother used to say, if the Majority (ie your friends) jumped off a cliff, would you jump too?

    What’s actually happening is that the public is buying into the sales pitch that the previous Administration mouthed ad nauseum. Now it’s bled over into this Administration. The worst of the worst? These aren’t super-criminals. They’re not Magneto and Dr. Octopus. They’re not Lex Luther or the Joker. They’re not space aliens who can read your thoughts and explode your brain. They’re guys who used violence to get what they wanted. “The worst of the worst” should go down in history along with “Mission Accomplished” as the biggest snow jobs of the 21st century.

    We currently have mass murderers and ultra-violent gang bangers in our prisons. We’ve got crazey people who ate their victims or cut their bodies up. We’ve even got home grown terrorists already serving time, watched over by professional corrections officers. We can’t safely secure a bunch of bomb-making, AK toting, opium farmers who were so disenfranchised they had to resort to terrorism? Heck, I’d match good old-fashioned Crips and Bloods against the Taliban and Al-Qaeda any day.

    You all need to stop making monsters out of thugs. You’ll sleep better.

    Close Gitmo. Put ‘em in Leavenworth or Pelican Bay. Get our soldiers back to doing the job they were trained for – combat.

    As for Obama’s “turn-around”: I knew when he was campaigning that he wouldn’t be able to accomplish half of the things he promised because he’d have to buck a lot of intransigent Americans. But he’s got 4 years minimum and, hopefully, 8 years , to make some changes.

    Cheney? Sincere? The man doesn’t have a sincere bone in his body. He has zero credibility with me. In fact, I’m generally inclined to take the opposite view on anything he says just because he says it. That’s probably a little childish of me, I know, but I can’t help it.

  4. sageseeker1 says:

    Sure, just like Americans believed Bush and Cheney and their war chants to drum up support for invasion of Iraq! People were gullible then because it was a knee jerk reaction to fear because of 9/11 (which had nothng to do with Iraq, or course). Cheney’s working the same angle–fear. People are worried that some of the most dangerous of the GITMO prisoners could come to a prison near them! A prison in Montana has offered their services. Security would need to be state-of-the-art, but it could be done.
    Cheney believes if he plants an early seed in people’s brains, they’ll think him a hero in case there is another terror attack, which there could be, with or without Cheney’s. He needs a muzzle!

  5. laytonian says:

    If that poll is true, why are some many communities (with federal and/or underused super-prisons) begging for the detainees to be held in those prisons?

    The public isn’t stupid. We know that these guys are no worse than RIGHT-WING Christian Terry Nichols, the Unabomber, or the other convicted murderers being held across the US.

    Why do polls treat people .like they’re stupid?

    Why is Dick Cheney’s daughter on a Dick-Apology tour right now?

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