Will ‘birthers’ contaminate the GOP?

Make no mistake about it — the “birthers” are creepy. They are packs of obsessive haters of President Obama convinced he was not born in Hawaii but out of the nation, and hence cannot be president.

What foolishness.

The evidence, a birth notice in a 1961 newspaper, and an official copy of his Hawaii birth certificate, mean nothing to the “birthers.” Led by Alan Keyes — and how far has he fallen — and a Web magazine called World Net Daily, “birthers” are sprouting like weeds. Witness this assault on Republican Congressman Mike Castle:

To be honest, I love seeing pols discombobulated, but why must it be at the expense of these ninnies? It seems the political world must deal with this virus every several years. In the ’90s we had allegations of Clintonian murder and corruption in Arkansas airing on the late Jerry Falwell’s gospel peddling show. And the Bush era was infected by the 911 “Truthers,” who are still muddling around somewhere.

One symptom of paranoia is an enhanced feeling of self-importance. I’m sure there are a lot of neurotics who enjoy shouting at congresspersons that they are covering up Obama’s birth. “Look, I’m on YouTube!” And sadly, they have lots of company. Lou Dobbs, who should know better, has enabled these loons via his CNN show.

The Democrats are enjoying this show. Most “birthers” are far right Republicans, or Birchers or Constitution Party members. There’s a new bill in Congress celebrating Obama as a native-born Hawaiian. It’s designed to give Republicans who vote for it future pain at town hall meetings from the types of screamers who harassed Rep. Castle. All’s fair in politics — the GOP sponsored similar “gotcha” resolutions in the past several years.

The only valuable question from all this foolishness is, will “birthers” contaminate the GOP in 2010? I doubt it but that hasn’t stopped the administration’s enablers in the media from giving it a shot. R. Emmett Tyrrell, Jr., of The American Spectator, recounts in a column a phone call he received from a cable news show.

The show needed a conservative to talk about the “birthers,” the booker said. Tyrrell agreed, adding that his magazine had investigated and debunked the Obama birth conspiracy a year ago.

A little while later, the booker called to cancel Tyrrell. The explanation: They wanted a conservative who believed the “birthers.”

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34 Responses to “Will ‘birthers’ contaminate the GOP?”


  1. Bill
    on Jul 27th, 2009
    @ 9:21 pm

    Just publish the birth certificate and all can be put to rest!


  2. flatlander100
    on Jul 27th, 2009
    @ 9:51 pm

    Not that it will make the slightest bit of difference to you, Bill, but here it is: President Obama’s birth certificate. It’s been published and posted for many months now. Enjoy.

    http://msgboard.snopes.com/politics/graphics/birth.jpg


  3. Steve Stones
    on Jul 27th, 2009
    @ 10:08 pm

    Doug, the GOP is already contaminated: Contaminated with old men, old ideas and old religious fanatics. Only the pretty young gals on Fox News and Sarah Palin are a great site to see, for the eyes anyway.


  4. keith
    on Jul 27th, 2009
    @ 10:30 pm

    the GOP is already brain death.


  5. Jim Hutchins
    on Jul 27th, 2009
    @ 10:31 pm

    Oh, and Bill, be sure you post *your* birth certificate, too.


  6. Pete
    on Jul 27th, 2009
    @ 10:45 pm

    Interesting article about a break-in at the passport office to cleanse Obama’s records and one of the individuals has been found shot:
    http://www.therightperspective.org/2009/07/24/security-breach-may-lead-to-obama-natural-born-status/

    The issue here is simple. In the 1960’s Hawaii was rife with immigration fraud due to the lax laws at the time. Anyone could walk in off the street and declare that had a child that popped out in the backyard and they need a birth certificate.

    Obama claims he was born in a hospital in Hawaii.That information is not shown on the COLB produced by Obama. The name of the hospital is only shown on the vault birth records Obama refuses to produce. Obama has also refused for the hospital to produce records to prove he was born at that hospital.

    So the COLB on its own, due to the rampant fraud at the time, needs to produce the vault birth records that would confirm Obama’s own statement that he was born at a hospital in Hawaii.

    Birth certificates from Hawaii prior to the change in the immigration laws in the 1970’s to require verifiable evidence of the birth are suspect for this very reason.

    It is not too much to ask Obama to produce the vault records that would confirm his statement. And there will be some statement that the vault records have been destroyed, they are no longer available, all lies.


  7. Pete
    on Jul 27th, 2009
    @ 10:49 pm

    Also for a trip down memory lane here is where the \birther\ movement started on the Hillary Clinton blogs as far back as December 2007:

    http://www.commongroundpolitics.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=16505

    It is deeply disturbing that the Democratic National Committee had months of notice of this issue and instead of vetting Obama decided to place their interests over those of the People and the possible civil unrest it will cause if Obama has to be removed for the DNC’s desire to control the White House. This is the vault of the Democratic party who placed what they knew to be a potentially ineligible candidate on the primary ballot.


  8. flatlander100
    on Jul 27th, 2009
    @ 11:06 pm

    Pete and Bill:

    I’ve always wondered, do you guys order your tin foil hats made professionally, or do you make them yourselves? Inquiring minds want to know….


  9. Charles Trentelman
    on Jul 27th, 2009
    @ 11:48 pm

    i’m with doug on t his one — the Birth Cert has been published numerous times, in high definition, to no avail. There’s always some technicality, and some guy writing me was convinced that just the fact that other people were raising the question was proof that there must be something wrong — amazing circular reasoning.

    obama could show a video of him being born, in hawaii’s capitol, his newly sprung bottom landing on a copy of that day’s local paper, held by the governor of the state, and it would prove nothing to these folk. .


  10. flatlander100
    on Jul 28th, 2009
    @ 12:06 am

    Charlie:

    You wrote: “Obama could show a video of him being born, in hawaii’s capitol, his newly sprung bottom landing on a copy of that day’s local paper, held by the governor of the state, and it would prove nothing to these folk.”

    LOL. Yup. The right wing froot loops would be on the air instantly alleging that the film was faked, and in fact was shot in the same air port hanger at an abandoned air field in the desert at which NASA faked the moon landing pictures.


  11. Mike Trujillo
    on Jul 28th, 2009
    @ 12:50 am

    Hey, wait a minute! Now that I think about it, I’ve never seen George Washington’s birth certificate! Or Lincoln’s. Or Reagan’s. There’s something fishy going on here.


  12. Ann
    on Jul 28th, 2009
    @ 5:52 am

    Take your meds, put on your tinfoil hat to protect you from the aliens, and move on, people.


  13. mac1
    on Jul 28th, 2009
    @ 7:26 am

    Just like John McCain, he had unusual circumstances with his parents and where he was born. All of his records were reviewed and made public, not once, twice. BO has a back round 100 times more unusual then McCain. It is incredible, most who are liberal know little or nothing about this and just parrot some other ignorant liberal. This president has signed his name five different ways. this president was adopted by a muslim and went to a muslim school in Indonesia. There are real questions about how he got into Pakistan in 1988 and what nations passport he used to enter the country. An American with an American passport could not enter Pakistan. Oh! You say another conspiracy. No BO revealed it in his book. Is that a legitimate question to ask? It should have been asked and researched before he ran for the senate. He was not vetted properly. He got a pass by the MSM. Just like McCain, clear his record. Fully do the investagation that was never done. Then he will be cleared, right? There will be no problems, nothing to hide. Ha! We’ll see won’t we?


  14. Charles Trentelman
    on Jul 28th, 2009
    @ 7:49 am

    sorry mac1 — hawaii just issued another statement today verifying obama’s place of birth — your rants about pakistan (Yes he could too enter legally. sorry, you have been lied to) are immaterial. And the US Congress has now passed a resolution regarding Hawaii’s 50th anniversary of statehood saying that “whereas president of the united states barack obama was born in hawaii.”

    so, u disagree, take it up with Congress.


  15. Alan
    on Jul 28th, 2009
    @ 7:54 am

    With two hospitals fighting over being the birth place of BHO, which one is listed on the BIRTH CERTIFICATE. A Certificate of Live Birth was given out to children that were born out of the USA and is not relevant to the question at hand.


  16. Jim Hutchins
    on Jul 28th, 2009
    @ 8:06 am

    Well I’ve never been to Spain
    But I’ve been to Oklahoma
    They tell me I was born there
    But I really don’t remember.

    – Hoyt Axton

    Are you being deliberately offensive, or merely ignorant?

    – Joy Gresham, played by Debra Winger in “Shadowlands”


  17. JD
    on Jul 28th, 2009
    @ 8:51 am

    It’s easy to make all the \birthers\ show as foolish as this article stipulates… JUST PRODUCE THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE (long form, please). And while you are at it, how about his passport and school records. I was required to produce all that information just to get a job…


  18. Rick554
    on Jul 28th, 2009
    @ 9:38 am

    Hey , heres an idea……… how about showing us a real birth certificate?


  19. Cleo
    on Jul 28th, 2009
    @ 9:45 am

    1. Aliens are visiting the Earth.

    2. The President is not really a natural born citizen

    3. Humans can stop the planet from warming.

    People will believe anything won’t they. Sad isn’t it.


  20. sageseeker1
    on Jul 28th, 2009
    @ 10:11 am

    These people embarrass the GOP and further illustrate the party’s brain drain. How on earth these folks can still exist in non-reality insults all Americans and makes the nation appear illiterate. The conservatives, armed with their ’swift-boaters,’ Limbaughs, Hannitys and O’Reillys are reaping what they sowed.


  21. Steve
    on Jul 28th, 2009
    @ 11:14 am

    I’m as amused by this as I was by the Clinton murder conspiracy and the 9/11 truth conspiracy (ah, remember back when Gore Vidal was sane? He wasn’t as entertaining then, but he was at least relevant). But then, I’m not a Republican and my party isn’t being steadily co-opted by tin-foil-hat-wearing nutters. I’m not watching the hope of my party becoming a politically relevant party again any time soon being devoured by spittle-flecked nutjobs who can’t stand the fact that a black man (and almost worse, a Democrat) is the President of the United States. Were I a conservative, I’d be worried rather than amused because the more in-roads this idiocy makes into the mainstream Republican party the less the party resembles a sane conservative philosophy and the more it looks like the Mad Tin Foil Hatter party. If in the future conservatives don’t want to be envious of the political power wielded by the Green party, or would like to be viable outside the Area 51 of American politics, they need to clean the nutters out of their party…or at least shoo them back to the fringe where they belong.


  22. Preston
    on Jul 28th, 2009
    @ 2:09 pm

    I have no original of my birth certificate, I have to rely on the certified newly-generated certificate from the Utah Office of Vital Statistics. If the President doesn’t have his original, after admittedly living around the world, that’s no big deal. World Net Daily keeps demanding he “disclose” his original. I’ve read their so-called investigative stories and the best they can do is keep moaning that he doesn’t have his original. But how many people do?


  23. Nicole
    on Jul 28th, 2009
    @ 3:07 pm

    I have no doubt President Obama was born in Hawaii and that he is a citizen. The real issue is not citizenship, which to most credible observers is not in doubt, but how adoption and dual citizenship affect “natural born citizenship,” the actual Constitutional requirement for presidential eligibility.

    Too many people miss the point and then the debate devolves into a xenophobic and anti-zenophobe shouting match when it could be a fairly interesting discussion of the Constitution and the law and global interaction.

    After being born in Hawaii, Obama was later adopted by an Indonesian father, and for most of his early life in Indonesia and Hawaii, went by Barry Soetoro. To date, Obama has not released his long-form birth certificate (fueling speculation), nor his college transcripts (fueling more speculation), quite likely because he knows his adoption and dual citizenship cloud the eligibility issue for him.

    I’m adopted myself. My birth certificate is a FRAUD. It lists my adopted parents as my birth parents. Whatever age you are adopted at, your birth certificate is changed.

    Obama’s already admitted he was a dual citizen at birth (Britain, U.S.) through his birth father. One more dual citizenship with Indonesia shouldn’t hurt, right? Well, who knows? Obviously, people would start speculating about “loyalty”… That’s what people do. And there’s this whole curiosity about how Obama traveled to Pakistan in 1981 when no U.S. citizen was legally able to do that. Did he use his Indonesian passport? Did he receive his scholarship to Occidental and Columbia as a foreign student? Can you be a dual citizen and still a natural-born citizen?

    Maybe we should just drop the “natural born citizenship” clause out of the requirements to be president. It doesn’t make a whole lot of sense when you consider the American Taliban captured in Afghanistan was a natural-born citizen. And Bob Hope was not!

    So while many xenophobic birthers ARE missing the point, there is still an interesting Constitutional issue involved. And, I think there’s a deeper populist issue that we want our elected leaders to play by the same rules we have to abide by. It’s enough that they get their own pension plan (not social security) and health care (not the public option they’re hoping to foist on us) but should they also get to run for president without a thorough scrutiny of their birth certificates?


  24. flatlander100
    on Jul 28th, 2009
    @ 3:13 pm

    Preston:

    Louisiana digitalized its vital records some years ago [as did Hawaii]. The only birth certificates I can now get for my three children born there [the "originals" having been lost in various moves a while ago], are the digitally printed ones which the Birthers claim are not acceptable.

    Better hope none of my offspring get themselves elected president. All of them born in Baton Rouge, but newspaper notices at the time and digital birth certificates are all they have to prove it, plus their parents’ testimony of course. In short, they have what President Obama has, and as the Birthers keep telling us, that’s not acceptable. [My god, we have relatives in Canada! I can see the conspiracy theories aborning now: "He was born in Canada! He's Canadian! The birth certificate is a digital fake! And his Canadian relatives once stayed at a hotel at which a Moslem worked in the kitchen! What more proof do you need? He's not president, he's an alien and known relative of Canadians! Deport him!"]

    [Note to self: look into investing in tinfoil hat industry. Seems to be recession proof business.]


  25. Michael Trujillo
    on Jul 28th, 2009
    @ 4:07 pm

    So, to be fair, someone should do the research and locate the Birth Certificates of past Presidents. If no one was properly “vetting” Obama’s eligibility, there’s the possibility that no one “vetted” any other President’s eligibility. Where’s Dwight Eisenhower’s original Birth Certificate? I”m not kidding. If even one other President of the past 50 or so years has “unsuitable” birth documentation, it means the whole system is flawed. Heck, that could be enough for laws signed years ago to be thrown out because the signer wasn’t legitimately the President. Jimmy Carter was the first American President to be born in a hospital. Gerald Ford was born at home. What does his Birth Certificate say?

    You all should be careful. You may open a whole can of worms by insisting on 21st century documentation of 50 year-old records. There was a time when a handwritten notation on the inside cover of a family Bible sufficed as proof of birth. It’s too bad you all are grasping at any technicallity to overturn the majority’s choice for Prez. Those grapes must be really, really sour.


  26. laytonian
    on Jul 28th, 2009
    @ 4:34 pm

    ALAN – you wrote “With two hospitals fighting over being the birth place of BHO, which one is listed on the BIRTH CERTIFICATE. A Certificate of Live Birth was given out to children that were born out of the USA and is not relevant to the question at hand.”

    1 – Two hospitals are NOT fighting over it.

    2 – My own Ogden-Weber Certificate of Birth (certified in 1952) does NOT list the hospital I was born in.

    3 – The rest of what you’re trying to say, is also wrong.

    I feel sorry for you all. You are all so gullible, and believe anything you are told, it makes me want to send you phish emails so I can get your bank account information. I really think you are vulnerable to scams, Ponzi schemes, Publishers Clearing House, late-night informercial “get rich quick” scams and any other opportunity offered by someone who says “you can trust me, I’m of your religion”.


  27. Nick
    on Jul 28th, 2009
    @ 4:59 pm

    Forget the birth certificate. The real issue is that regardless of where he was born, Obama is ineligible simply because he possessed Kenyan/British citizenship at birth thru his father. Read what Vattel said in “The Law of Nations.” Vattel was very influential in the early United States, and he makes clear that if someone’s father is not a citizen then the child cannot be natural born. Also see the U.S. Supreme Court discussions in The Venus, 12 U.S. 8 Cranch 289 (1814) and also Minor v. Happersett, 88 U.S. 21 Wall. 167-168 (1874).

    This isn’t a matter of conspiracy or speculation; it’s simply a matter of historical legal fact.

    Attorneys Leo Donofrio and Mario Apuzzo are good sources on this particular argument.


  28. Michael Trujillo
    on Jul 28th, 2009
    @ 5:31 pm

    What the heck is a “long form Birth Certificate”? I don’t have one. Am I illegitimate?


  29. Token
    on Jul 28th, 2009
    @ 6:21 pm

    I really don’t know why I even bother with this, the crunch will come and we will see who’s been wearing the tinfoil beanies and drinking the kool-aid. I didn’t work with Baton Rouge ( What Parish is it ?) Clerk of Court, but I helped convert most of the Cajun Parishes to computer records 10 to 15 years ago, and I assure Flatlander100 that someone at his Parish Clerk
    Of Court can either show him a) the original birth certificate filed when he was born or b) show him a microfiche image or computer scanned image of his original birth certificate, or c ) have a good explanation of which hurricane destroyed his original birth certificate shortly after his birth before it had been microfiched and sent to archival storage. ( this would be the only acceptable reason for there not being an archived microfiche
    Of an original filing- I’m imagining Flatlander is more than 10 years old, which was when we started converting Parishes to Digital Scanned archives from Photo microfiched archives )
    There are two systems of record keeping at any modern courthouse.
    The most public grants access to a computer data base which has been filled with data by minimum wage filing clerks/ data entry personnel who spend their time entering information from the original paper filings from lawyers, hospitals, etc. These data bases are used as the most convenient way of searching for required information, but if the information was entered incorrectly, it is still incorrect information, Garbage in, garbage out. This is why the Clerk of Court maintains the second, Archival Record system, which contains either a microfiche photo or digital scan of the actual filed document. My company sold software that allowed an abstracter to find the information on the searchable data base and then use that to pull up an image of the actual document to see that the information was in fact correct, This is most often the case with Land records, but most states “seal” vital records.(ie Birth, Death, Marriage) to a greater or lesser extent to prevent identity theft, and they do not allow access to the archived images to the general public .
    Where this comes into play here is that what Obama has made available is a “Certificate of Live Birth” generated from a computer data base- NOT AN ARCHIVAL IMAGE OF HIS ACTUAL FILING OF LIVE BIRTH. In short, if you would give me 5 minutes with the Honolulu (County?) vitals data base, I could print him out a cute little Certificate of Live Birth that certified he was born on the far side of the moon.
    Does that sort of thing happen? Come on! Which is why, I assure you, your Parish Clerk can provide you with an actual photocopy/scanned image print of your “Birth Certificate”, IF YOU MAKE IT CLEAR WHAT YOU WANT- otherwise she’ll give you a beautifully sealed and pre printed certificate that looks like a Monk inscribed it, with the details printed out from the searchable database, and it could state you were born on the far side of the moon, if that’s what someone has altered the database to say. Why the fancy certificate for the low-grade information? Well, let’s just say somebody makes a good living printing up fancy certificates. And also, the actual photocopy/scanned image might contain other inconvenient facts, like let’s say your daddy was a Muslim and so your religion is listed as Muslim. That could turn out to be real inconvenient in some situations. So all in all, you might just want to pass off the fancy database generated form and hope no one will spot the difference


  30. Jim Hutchins
    on Jul 28th, 2009
    @ 6:46 pm

    Here’s the argument of the birthers, in a nutshell.

    “When I close my eyes, the world goes away, only to be recreated in full every time I open them again.”

    PROVE ME WRONG. PROVE IT.


  31. flatlander100
    on Jul 28th, 2009
    @ 6:55 pm

    Token:

    Flatlander is considerably more than ten years old, and was born in God’s Country [Brooklyn, NY]. When I had to get a copy of my birth certificate a couple of years ago to qualify for medicare, NY sent me a digital copy, with the state seal embossed thereon, not a photo copy of the “original.” It’s the only kind they tell me I can get. Medicare accepted it as legitimate. So did the State of Louisiana [pension and insurance purposes].

    The state of Hawaii has repeatedly certified that the the President’s birth certificate, as posted all over the place now, is valid. Absent any EVIDENCE to the contrary, I think that has to stand. Particularly since there is contemporary corroborating evidence that does not come from the same source. [The newspaper birth announcement that appeared in a Hawaii paper within days of his birth, etc.] And no one has to date submitted any credible evidence that it is not valid.

    I do notice above that some the “he’s not really president” crowd are beginning to abandon the birther argument in favor of truly arcane theories involving the impossibility of dual citizenship for minors, etc. etc. I understand why they’re fleeing the birther argument —- any sane person would — but the claims they’re retreating to are even more bizarre and unknown to American law.


  32. Al
    on Jul 28th, 2009
    @ 7:44 pm

    The Daily Show did a great segment on this bizarro-land theory last week, laying bare the depth of paranoid conspiracy that underlies treating the birther idea with the slightest bit of credulity. In a nutshell, one must believe that sometime before 1961 a cabal of America’s enemies could imagine the election of a black Manchurian Candidate to the office of U.S. President, and this would set into motion their dastardly ends (the downfall of the capitalist/racist/etc scourge of the world); they then decided to have their designated pawn be born outside of the United States to make this impossibly long-in-the-odds quest even harder. (Why would they do *that*? Because bringing down a nation by electing its first black president is too easy all by itself?)

    And just look: All the pieces have fallen into place.

    Truly boggles the mind.


  33. Token
    on Jul 28th, 2009
    @ 8:16 pm

    Flatlander100

    Appears you and I are of about an age. Sorry for assuming you were born in Louisiana- it’s a great place to be, and I miss the trips I used to make down there before I retired. However. Point is the same I made before. All County/Parish Governments keep 2 sets of Records:The public searchable database, which is generated by clerks typing in document after document to fill data fields in the data base, which exists only as magnetized bits in the storage drives and as slightly less volatile pits on archived backup cds/dvds, ( or other magnetic/optical /digital media) This public database is changeable by anyone who has “edit” access to it. It is also subject to typographical and “oops” sorts of data entry errors ( eg: say you have a stack of “Long Form” (Paper) Birth Certificates from Honolulu with one from Kenya tucked in, and in typing them in, they all get entered as “ Honolulu”) And do people searching for public records find “Oops” types of errors? Sure they do.
    So, to correct information, and to settle information from the database that is disputed (eg, say someone got a certified copy of a Certificate of Live Birth 3 years ago, and goes back for another and now the place of birth has changed. – this happens more often than Clerks of Court like to think about – say one of the drives crashed or became corrupted ) Clerks are (in every State I’m aware of) required to keep an actual photocopy (microfiche) or digital scan of the original paper filed document. In most States they are also required to keep the actual document itself in offsite
    storage (owners of salt mines that no longer mine salt make good money storing these documents) These actual copies of the original documents are used to verify that the correct information is entered in the searchable database whenever such information is disputed ( once again, this occurs more often than Clerks like to think about )
    It’s been 5 years since I retired, it’s possible that some Clerks no longer make available actual photo/scanned copies of these Documents. It’s also possible that some of the fields on the older forms are now viewed as not “politically correct” (eg: religion) maybe you just haven’t posed the question so that they understand that you want an actual image of the original document- it is a whole lot less trouble to issue the database generated form than to dig out the archived copy of the original- but I guarantee that Honolulu County Clerks Office has on site or has access to either a microfiched copy of Obama’s original, paper, made out in longhand, signed, “Long Form Birth Certificate”, and maybe they won’t produce it for anyone else, ( Access to the original is usually limited to either the Parents, the owner, or the owners heirs or legal representative)
    But I think the President of the United States could probably get them to make a copy for him.
    Stop and think about it- Have you ever had your hard drive crash?
    Now think of St. Bernard Parish trying to reconstruct their records after Katrina. You better believe they have originals stored offsite.
    So what’s with Obama’s Birth Certificate ? I Guarantee that if he wanted to, he could get a photocopy/microfiche of his actual Birth Certificate. Why doesn’t he? Maybe any number of reasons – I suspect that it shows something like his religion being listed as “Muslim”. Which would have been inconvenient if it had come out during the campaign, but doesn’t disqualify him from being President, I suspect that what will happen in the end is what happened to Nixon- it wasn’t the fact of the Watergate Burglaries that got him, it was his attempt to cover it up. I’d be pleased to find out Obama was born in Hawaii, as I suspect he really was. But until he actually shows what it is he’s hiding, the whole thing is just going to snowball.


  34. Token
    on Aug 1st, 2009
    @ 10:13 am

    Found this last night- a concise and straightforward presentation of the Obama citizenship problem:

    http://www.westernjournalism.com/?page_id=2697

    On rereading the statements of the Hawaiian officials who vouch for Obama’s “Birth Certificate”, I find I must withdraw my former statement that the information conveyed by the Database generated
    Certification of Live Birth must be essentially correct, because the Hawaiian officials had vouched for it. On rereading their statement it becomes clear that all the officials have vouched for is that they do, in fact, have an archival, vault, long form, birth certificate for Obama on file.

    The other significant point made in this posting is that the “conspiracy” to file a false birthplace for Obama was not necessitated by some prophetic revelation that he needed to have been born in Hawaii in case he one day wished to be president, but was in fact more likely a “conspiracy” between Ann Dunham and her parent(s) brought about by the realization that, if little Barack had not been born on US soil, he would not have a claim to any sort of US citizenship at all, but would have been a single citizenship British Subject of Kenya. And since, as I previously stated, it appears that the contemporaneous appearence of birth announcements in the Honolulu newspapers was simply a result of the health department policy of posting the announcements on registration of a birth, the whole notion of the necessity of some “vast conspirracy to ensure that someday little Barack woukd grow up to be president” is simply not true. The only conspiracy necessary is betwwen Ann Dunham and her older and wiser parent, on the realization that by birthing her child in it’s fathers homeland of Kenya, she had denied the child any claim to US citizenship at all. It is also possible that even that much “conspiracy” was unnecessary, in that Ann Dunham may have made that realization on her own, and so simply filed for the certificate on her return from Kenya.
    The “conspiracy” part of the “Birther Saga” actaully seems to begin in the winter of 2008, when Hillary Clinton’s campaign “Outed” BOTH McCain and Obama as Un”Naturally Born” US citizens. McCain’s camp immediately released his Archival Birth Certifficate, and Congress affirmed his status as “Naturally Born”. Obama’s people had a “Houston, we have a Problem” moment. And have been conspiring to obstruct inquiry ever since.

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